"I actually wasn't aware that he had that background, and he came across more like someone who'd picked up a book or two or maybe taken a first-year class and taken the lesson on the nonsuperiority of the standard as an excuse to call out "grammar nazis"."
Nope. Up to Honours so far, working on clearing debts to move up to PhD level. I know of whence I speak.
I mean, let's not pussyfoot around, I do take the lesson on the nonsuperiority of the standard as an excuse to call out grammar nazis, but I do always wait for them to start it first! :P
As for the Subjective/Objective divide... Well, I'm not a pure subjectivist, I'm rather much of a fence-sitter in regards to that battle. I mean, seriously, you did see me in Philosophy, yeah? I don't actually think everything is just opinion, I do think there's a objective fabric to reality, I just think you're nuts if you're expecting to find objective truth in language - you're talking about the science of signs here!
As you may note, I'm just as passionate about language, just on the opposing side to you. I am, in a way, rather seduced by the Egalitarian side, but more importantly I find non-standard forms far more fascinating than standard forms, and thus I tend to stick up for them more often than not. I mean, I'm a online sociolinguist - my favourite things to look at are chatspeaks and Internet Englishes. Of course, it's even more fascinating to see how speakers of both react to each other, but that's what you get, really. So, no offence taken! :)
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Date: 2009-01-12 09:59 am (UTC)Nope. Up to Honours so far, working on clearing debts to move up to PhD level. I know of whence I speak.
I mean, let's not pussyfoot around, I do take the lesson on the nonsuperiority of the standard as an excuse to call out grammar nazis, but I do always wait for them to start it first! :P
As for the Subjective/Objective divide... Well, I'm not a pure subjectivist, I'm rather much of a fence-sitter in regards to that battle. I mean, seriously, you did see me in Philosophy, yeah? I don't actually think everything is just opinion, I do think there's a objective fabric to reality, I just think you're nuts if you're expecting to find objective truth in language - you're talking about the science of signs here!
As you may note, I'm just as passionate about language, just on the opposing side to you. I am, in a way, rather seduced by the Egalitarian side, but more importantly I find non-standard forms far more fascinating than standard forms, and thus I tend to stick up for them more often than not. I mean, I'm a online sociolinguist - my favourite things to look at are chatspeaks and Internet Englishes. Of course, it's even more fascinating to see how speakers of both react to each other, but that's what you get, really. So, no offence taken! :)